What he is doing is hoping Obama wins so that he gets to be the front runner for 2016!

Romneycare passed in 2006 and DeMint endorsed Romney in 2008 when Romneycare was still considered a political asset. Now that Romneycare is considered a political liability, Romney continues to stand behind it as a reasonable state-based solution (though he would repeal the national monstrosity Obamacare)while DeMint refuses to repeat his endorsement. Now, tell me again, who is supposed to be the flip-flopper?

It was the Republican party that initially endorsed mandatory insurance! They know that you cannot have comprehensive health reform without the individual mandate! And you cannot have 30 states doing it and 20 not doing it!

perry was king of the hill until it came out about the reduced college education for illegals. that sunk him faster than a ton of bricks. anything that gives illegals an incentive is wrong.... between the spending and illegals, our children and grands are screwed.

Harry, actually, Texas does not give reduced college education to illegal immigrants. In the state of Texas, if you attend a Texas high school for 3 years, regardless of whether your parents brought you into the state illegally or not, you PAY the same college tuition as every other graduate of a Texas high school. This is no "incentive" or special benefit for illegal immigrant. This is merely not punishing an innocent person for the crimes of their parents. These students had no say over whether they grew up in Dallas or Mexico City. All these students did was do well in school and aim to get a higher education so they can be productive members of society. Punishing them for the actions of their parents is wrong. Also, I believe they also must go through the legal process of becoming a legal resident of the US, now that they are adults.

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Oh Eric, how nice of Texas! I wonder if I sneak over the border to let's say Italy, China, Switzerland etc etc how they treat my children? You are condoning the actions of criminals, no wonder we are failing a a nation!

How in the world do you justify punishing an eight or ten year old who was brought over so he could have a better life? Man, that's cold. Joe - you need to think in terms of people instead of "systems."

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re: Oh Eric, how nice of Texas! I wonder if I sneak over the border...we are failing a nation!
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oh joe, sigh and oh/my...cute (bordering on the absurd) remarks do nothing to sustain your opines...

it was the right, compassionate, action for TX...the closer (TX and mexico border) one is to the immigration issue the better it is understood...

W and perry, for all their short comings, with a heart understand the immigration issue...at least better than the racists members of our society.

we are not a failing nation...tho most of the world democracies do have better, less costly, healthcare...similar to the family values, romenyBOcare.

what punishment? I lived in NJ my daughter went to UNCW she paid OUT OF STATE TUITION! I didn't cry or sue although it is the USA and she got FEDERAL loans stop your liberal nonsense they don't belong here!

Joe, I am not condoning the actions of criminals. The students committed no crime and thus should not be punished for the actions for their parents. These students are trying to do the right thing to be productive members of society.
Also, your daughter paid out of state tuition to a North Carolina college because she went to high school somewhere other than North Carolina, right? These students graduated from Texas high schools, so they PAY the same thing as the other graduates from the same high school.

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Yes Eric you are condoning the actions of criminals. You advocate for those that benefit from a crime no different then if I robbed a bank and then paid my child's tuition. This notion that somehow they are not to be held responsible is nonsense.

Joe, sorry, but you are focused on the wrong person. The parents should be held responsible for their crime. In the case of the illegal immigrant, deport them or punish them in some other way and in the bank robber, incarcerate the bank robber. You would not put the children of the bank robber in jail too, would you?
You are also assuming that the illegal immigrant parents of these students are paying their tuition. In many cases the students are paying their own tuition.

Eric, we have deported them and now we have a foster problem on our hands! No oI would not put the children of the bank robber in jail but I would want the money back! Eric are you seriously telling me that these children are paying their own tuition? No, they are borrowing from the taxpayers and now Obama plan to let them off the hook for their vote!

I guess it couldn't be because all of the candidates sound so 'toopid on every subject? Not only that, the GOP constituents appear to be eager to get on any bandwagon over just a few sound bites made by these unprepared candidates. It's embarrassing.

It is good to see the GOP in disarray. Got to do more than say "no" and put the burden of necessary budget reform on the backs of the working class. Hopefully in 2012 we will again have a Democratic Majority in the House so the Country can move forward on Job Creation, Environmental reform, and Energy Reform.

Richard America might be dumb enough to put Obama back in in 2012 but there is no way they are EVER going to give him the House and Senate again! We learned our lesson with Pelosi and Reid!

Eric, would we have an in state tuition problem if we did NOT have an illegal immigration problem?

Joe, what "in state tuition" problem are you referring to? There has been "in state tuition" for years. The idea is that graduates of state high schools pay a lower price than students from other states. This is not a funding issue, actually it is not even an illegal immigrant issue. In order to go to college, the student has to get funding, loans, grants, scholarships and other sources of money, there is nothing about illegal immigrants.

Joe, if in your scenario, the bank robbers paid their kids college tuition, you would not be able to get it back. Sorry, your scenario breaks down.

As far as these students paying for college, they are paying college the same way their fellow graduates are paying for it, grants, scholarships, loans and money from parents and working for it. Again, these kids did nothing wrong and they are trying to do the right thing.

Eric, you would get it back from the parents! Eric the reason we are even having this debate is that we have an ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM which leads to all the other problems like in state tuition, english as a second language crap, medical costs soaring taxes not being paid, American workers being underpaid etc etc.......

Hey Eric, here's the bottom line. Bleeding heart Perry opened his mouth and the conservatives in this country let him know he can stick his in state tuition where the sun does not shine! So we don't really care what Texas does or Romney did on Mass, we want a Conservative President with some balls!

Joe, I agree there are a number of problems related to illegal immigrants and we need to address them. This, however, is not one of them. It would not make a difference if there were 50 college students in Texas going to college with in state tuition or there were 5 million. Actually, if there were 5 million, the colleges would make lots of money and there would be loads of well educated folks in our society. Also, these students are the people who had nothing to do with being here illegally and they are doing what we tell everyone to do, get a good education, be a part of our society. These kids aren't demanding Spanish be spoken everywhere, they speak great English. These kids are doing the right thing and I'm not suggesting they get anything special. I'm just saying we don't punish them for something their parents did and we should not punish them for doing what we think should be done.

Just to be clear, Gov. Perry did not "open his mouth." He was asked a question about how Texas does something and he answered it.

Also, there are 13 states right now that do not CHARGE graduates of their state's high schools more to go to college in their state because of the actions of their parents.

and you are beating a dead horse.

Semantics Eric.....

Not sure what "dead horse" I am beating. All I am doing is presenting the facts, correcting false or inaccurate statements and answering you when you post something directed at me.

Semantics? what semantics?

The dead horse is all the social issues we face as a nation that are caused by the failure of our Government to secure our border. We end up arguing over the secondary issues and then we are told we "don't have a heart" The heart failure is costing us billions!

Eric u assume because someone goes to college that they are well educated... You assume that they are paying, you assume a lot.

Joe Your statement "..all the social issues we face as a nation are caused by illegal immigration " shows your ignorance. Did it ever occur to you that funding two wars for ten years and corporations running our Congress might have contributed to our huge deficits and the problems facing our country ?

Interesting !

Brenda since we are discussing ignorance, I said 'social issues" Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc etc this over your head?

Breand I guess you are suggesting that if we didn't have to fight 2 wars the Government could instead give Illegals more benefits?

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re: we have an ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM which leads to all the other problems like in state tuition, english as a second language crap, medical costs soaring taxes not being paid, American workers being underpaid etc...

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surely joe jest...just when i was beginning to give some credence to the TPers...along comes joe...when in a hole one should stop digging.

i will apology profusely if joe provides any evidence to sustain any of his positions...and may even vote GOP to atone for my sins...ie, my mistaken opinion of joe's positions.

"ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM which leads to all the other problems"...surely joe jest...just busting my whatever.

Stan you know what makes you so annoying, it's not just your stupidity but the cut and paste. You are simply annoying.

Brenda, we have a multitude of problems, I believe we let the free market fix itself and the government protect its borders, we have it backwards!

In state tuition is not the reason the nation is falling, you liberals always want to use religion or paint us conservatives as heartless when we choose to confront the issues. We would not have an in state tuition problem IF THEY WERE LEGAL! Eric what part of that don't you get?

The founder of Intel Corp was a Hungarian immigrant. What brain power are we stifling by making it harder for kids to go to college.
College in France, all colleges, are free. Maybe if we weren't spending $1B a day in Afghanistan - a complete waste of money - we could just forgive all student debt in this country.

You know it's not an accident France and Germany didn't join George W. Bush's coalition against Iraq in 2003.
They didn't buy the "intell", Condi Rice's aluminum tubes and Powell's speech in the UN. In other words they didn't buy Bush, Cheney's and Rove's BS. But our Senate did.
France was with us in Bush, Sr's Iraq War in 1999. The French Army Mobile (FAR) was on the far west flank, right next to the US 24th Infantry Division.
Think about that, it shouldn't disappear from memory.

"the front runner for 2016!"
Amy Klobuchar or Elizabeth Warren in 2016. I'm dead serious. This country needs a humane woman in the WH for eight years instead of testosterone filled men. Especially men that have never served in the military themselves (Jim Demented) or in the SC Nat'l Guard, hello Joe Wilson, Lindsay Graham.

These writers are oblivious to the fact that neither Perry nor Romney nor Ryan nor Rubio nor Gingrich nor Cain are Conservatives. Perry ran Al Gore's Campaign in Texas in 2000. That's not a Conservative! He signed the first DREAM Act Amnesty, hardly the mark of a Conservative! Cain is a shill for big business, is shielding his liberal, Obama-voting wife from the media, believes in "a pathway to citizenship" for illegal aliens and will soon be in freefall. That's not a Conservative! Gingrich is an Open Borders, pro-Amnesty CFR globalist who gave us NAFTA and GATT that cost millions of American jobs! He left both his wives for other women while they had cancer, hardly the mark of a Conservative! "Mr. 1%er" Santorum gets an "F" from NumbersUSA on Immigration votes, hardly the mark of a Conservative! The only Conservative who DeMint can endorse is Michele Bachmann because she's the only Conservative in the race.

Joe, first, I am no liberal, second, I have not "used religion or painted conservatives as heartless." Third, THERE IS NO IN-STATE TUITION problem and the children are not illegal. They can not be held legally responsible for being here as they had no ability to stop from coming here as they were minors. These students are trying to do the right thing. All Texas and the other 12 states are doing is allowing them to PAY the same price for college as their fellow graduates. Nothing more or less. Well, there is a little more, most of these laws requires the students to become legal residents.

Was the GI Bill Free, no it was a loan, why don't you socialists make everything FREEEEEEEEEE

GI Bill is free. You have a $100 month deducted from a the first year's pay ($1200) and then you have it when you leave the service.

Eric unless those precious little darlings were born here which is another argument for another day then they themselves are breaking the law!

What is amazing is that the Republican HATERS fail to confess to their ignorance since they can only see out of their Democratic eye. I have no sympathy for either party, they both disgust me with their reverence to the corporate greed but WE THE PEOPLE made them that way.

There are 2 components of the GI Bill 1 for loans to buy a home the other for education IN RETURN FOR SERVING YOUR COUNTRY. I have no problem with getting something in return for sacrafice!

@joe
RE: Eric unless those precious little darlings were born here which is another argument for another day then they themselves are breaking the law!

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as probably, mentioned joe's facetious remarks (and ad hominems) add zip to a discussion...actually tend to discredit his opine and make it impossible to take him seriously...

but as mentioned he does provide excellent straight lines...and he provides a little humor...ie, it's fun watching someone in a hole continue digging...not really...
that said:

re: "they both [parties] disgust me with their reverence to the corporate greed but WE THE PEOPLE made them that way." [joe say]

agree 100% as pogo's old saw say, "we have met the enemy and it are us"...apologies if this saw too oft repeated...but i like it and it most appropriate..

BTW facetious remarks and adhoms are used mostly by those who have little or no facts to, in some way, confirm their opines...unless, of course, they are very good stand up comics and satirists...mark twain, will rodgers, bill maher come to mind.